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		<title>By: Blake</title>
		<link>http://regulargeek.com/2009/12/04/is-google-public-dns-a-marketing-data-warehouse/comment-page-1/#comment-3383</link>
		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 10:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Privacy is dead. Get over it. Marketing will get increasingly more precise and accurate. The moment you rip a hole in your underwear, you will have an ad asking you which brand to choose from to replace it. That is fairly benign. But if you go to the same mosque and happen to buy the same brand of aftershave as the next Mohammad Atta, you will have much more serious issues to contend with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Privacy is dead. Get over it. Marketing will get increasingly more precise and accurate. The moment you rip a hole in your underwear, you will have an ad asking you which brand to choose from to replace it. That is fairly benign. But if you go to the same mosque and happen to buy the same brand of aftershave as the next Mohammad Atta, you will have much more serious issues to contend with.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Diana</title>
		<link>http://regulargeek.com/2009/12/04/is-google-public-dns-a-marketing-data-warehouse/comment-page-1/#comment-3318</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin

It is not the information in the DNS that will be a concern, it is the information about every request. Each request has originator information like IP and some more as well. So, they can probably link geographical demographics with DNS requests, without affecting your data privacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin</p>
<p>It is not the information in the DNS that will be a concern, it is the information about every request. Each request has originator information like IP and some more as well. So, they can probably link geographical demographics with DNS requests, without affecting your data privacy.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Rodrigues</title>
		<link>http://regulargeek.com/2009/12/04/is-google-public-dns-a-marketing-data-warehouse/comment-page-1/#comment-3317</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Rodrigues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure seems that Google will make use of the data that it collects to further some of it&#039;s advertising purposes. But information about the domain names in the DNS server is hardly of concern to most people who use it even without knowing that such a thing happens when they type that www dot com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure seems that Google will make use of the data that it collects to further some of it&#8217;s advertising purposes. But information about the domain names in the DNS server is hardly of concern to most people who use it even without knowing that such a thing happens when they type that www dot com.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Diana</title>
		<link>http://regulargeek.com/2009/12/04/is-google-public-dns-a-marketing-data-warehouse/comment-page-1/#comment-3287</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tau

Given the wording in their privacy policy, privacy concerns are really a non-issue. I am sure people will complain for days about it anyway.

Given the data and the possible targeted advertising, you have to wonder if such a competitive advantage is a good thing. They could be raising the barrier to entry fairly high if this is the case.

Regarding the type of company Google is, they are more of an advertising and data mining company. Almost everything they do seems to gather data for the purpose of marketing or advertising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tau</p>
<p>Given the wording in their privacy policy, privacy concerns are really a non-issue. I am sure people will complain for days about it anyway.</p>
<p>Given the data and the possible targeted advertising, you have to wonder if such a competitive advantage is a good thing. They could be raising the barrier to entry fairly high if this is the case.</p>
<p>Regarding the type of company Google is, they are more of an advertising and data mining company. Almost everything they do seems to gather data for the purpose of marketing or advertising.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Diana</title>
		<link>http://regulargeek.com/2009/12/04/is-google-public-dns-a-marketing-data-warehouse/comment-page-1/#comment-3286</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyle,

I was curious to see what you were going to say about this one. Given that they will not correlate the data with any other service, I am more OK with it than I though I would be.

As you say though, is it a step too far?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle,</p>
<p>I was curious to see what you were going to say about this one. Given that they will not correlate the data with any other service, I am more OK with it than I though I would be.</p>
<p>As you say though, is it a step too far?</p>
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		<title>By: Tau_Zero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tau_Zero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a usability standpoint, if they can find ways to optimize the system and increase speed &amp; efficiency, then more power to them.  If they&#039;re going to then share this information and help other DNS services improve, it could really help the internet as a whole.  They&#039;ve also said that they&#039;d follow the protocol to the letter and won&#039;t interfere, censor, etc.

As for the data concentrating, I&#039;m see it as more good than bad. Of course, we have privacy concerns, however given the short storage of individually identifiable logs, it doesn&#039;t seem to be the end of the world.  If they do end up using the longterm generalized data for marketing, perhaps it will actually be a good thing – advertisements would be better targeted to appropriate, interested audiences, which improves the experience for those interested and reduces annoyance for those who aren&#039;t. The technical uses of the data to improve the technology is clearly good.

And in response to Kyle:
I think we&#039;re well beyond the point of considering Google as a &quot;search engine company,&quot; and instead as more of an online experience company (not the best description, but first one that came to mind) given the extent and age of their products beyond search.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a usability standpoint, if they can find ways to optimize the system and increase speed &amp; efficiency, then more power to them.  If they&#8217;re going to then share this information and help other DNS services improve, it could really help the internet as a whole.  They&#8217;ve also said that they&#8217;d follow the protocol to the letter and won&#8217;t interfere, censor, etc.</p>
<p>As for the data concentrating, I&#8217;m see it as more good than bad. Of course, we have privacy concerns, however given the short storage of individually identifiable logs, it doesn&#8217;t seem to be the end of the world.  If they do end up using the longterm generalized data for marketing, perhaps it will actually be a good thing – advertisements would be better targeted to appropriate, interested audiences, which improves the experience for those interested and reduces annoyance for those who aren&#8217;t. The technical uses of the data to improve the technology is clearly good.</p>
<p>And in response to Kyle:<br />
I think we&#8217;re well beyond the point of considering Google as a &#8220;search engine company,&#8221; and instead as more of an online experience company (not the best description, but first one that came to mind) given the extent and age of their products beyond search.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Brady</title>
		<link>http://regulargeek.com/2009/12/04/is-google-public-dns-a-marketing-data-warehouse/comment-page-1/#comment-3283</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually think this is really a step too far.  Not only does Google get more about you, but they&#039;re essentially deciding whether or not people can get to your site.

*That* is far too much control for a search engine company.

--Kyle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually think this is really a step too far.  Not only does Google get more about you, but they&#8217;re essentially deciding whether or not people can get to your site.</p>
<p>*That* is far too much control for a search engine company.</p>
<p>&#8211;Kyle</p>
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