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		<title>By: RM - InBoundMarketingPR</title>
		<link>http://regulargeek.com/2009/10/25/real-time-search-is-just-a-foundation-there-will-be-something-bigger/comment-page-1/#comment-3185</link>
		<dc:creator>RM - InBoundMarketingPR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, great points...Very informative.

Thanks for the share!! Real time is such a hot topic and so important for many businesses!

FOr info on getting your brand marketed visit: http://inboundmarketingpr.com/

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, great points&#8230;Very informative.</p>
<p>Thanks for the share!! Real time is such a hot topic and so important for many businesses!</p>
<p>FOr info on getting your brand marketed visit: <a href="http://inboundmarketingpr.com/" rel="nofollow">http://inboundmarketingpr.com/</a></p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: srinio</title>
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		<dc:creator>srinio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey this is truly informative, very glad to go through the post. Thank you very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey this is truly informative, very glad to go through the post. Thank you very much.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Diana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert

Thanks for giving us the OneRiot point of view. I find it interesting that it sounds like you are disagreeing with me, but you even state &quot;Its all about understanding intent and that is derived by the signals used to determine relevance.&quot; When I was talking about real-time search, I was talking about what you and some of your competitors currently provide, essentially a search index of real time data. As you say though, there is intent and relevance, and you get into pattern detection as well. That definitely leads to something bigger than the limited view of real-time search we have now. I am curious to see where you can take it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert</p>
<p>Thanks for giving us the OneRiot point of view. I find it interesting that it sounds like you are disagreeing with me, but you even state &#8220;Its all about understanding intent and that is derived by the signals used to determine relevance.&#8221; When I was talking about real-time search, I was talking about what you and some of your competitors currently provide, essentially a search index of real time data. As you say though, there is intent and relevance, and you get into pattern detection as well. That definitely leads to something bigger than the limited view of real-time search we have now. I am curious to see where you can take it.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Reich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Reich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree that RT will help with new platforms, but I do not agree with some of your statements and research. People, including Google are already monetizing RT queries. Try searching the word weather on Google, or falcons during tonights Monday night football game. 

These are just two RT queries that are being monetized today, news is a third.  I am not suggesting that a new index type is not necessary, in fact i would argue RT indexes like the one we create at OneRiot will do a better job of coverage on real time type queries. Its all about understanding intent and that is derived by the signals used to determine relevance. 

From a technology perspective RT is also tightly aligned with real world traffic patterns and designed to minimize a web server load. I just wrote a blog post on this topic, http://menro.me. The fetch style crawler used by RTS actually help a web site owner predict when traffic is about to materialize. Where traditional web crawlers are about taking resources today for the hope of traffic tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree that RT will help with new platforms, but I do not agree with some of your statements and research. People, including Google are already monetizing RT queries. Try searching the word weather on Google, or falcons during tonights Monday night football game. </p>
<p>These are just two RT queries that are being monetized today, news is a third.  I am not suggesting that a new index type is not necessary, in fact i would argue RT indexes like the one we create at OneRiot will do a better job of coverage on real time type queries. Its all about understanding intent and that is derived by the signals used to determine relevance. </p>
<p>From a technology perspective RT is also tightly aligned with real world traffic patterns and designed to minimize a web server load. I just wrote a blog post on this topic, <a href="http://menro.me" rel="nofollow">http://menro.me</a>. The fetch style crawler used by RTS actually help a web site owner predict when traffic is about to materialize. Where traditional web crawlers are about taking resources today for the hope of traffic tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: The hashtag jungle of real time search</title>
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		<dc:creator>The hashtag jungle of real time search</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] People like blogger Rob Diana suggest that its real strength will only become apparent with the growth of the mobile computing. A majority of the real time search boom will be in its convergence with another rapidly growing industry, mobile computing. There could be real time recommendations based on your current location using an application that aggregates information from real time searches as well as social sites like Yelp and Urban Spoon. Businesses can easily see the benefits of this as well with local advertisements and “limited time” discounts on your mobile phone. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] People like blogger Rob Diana suggest that its real strength will only become apparent with the growth of the mobile computing. A majority of the real time search boom will be in its convergence with another rapidly growing industry, mobile computing. There could be real time recommendations based on your current location using an application that aggregates information from real time searches as well as social sites like Yelp and Urban Spoon. Businesses can easily see the benefits of this as well with local advertisements and “limited time” discounts on your mobile phone. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Diana</title>
		<link>http://regulargeek.com/2009/10/25/real-time-search-is-just-a-foundation-there-will-be-something-bigger/comment-page-1/#comment-3084</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff,

Who &quot;owns&quot; the data is something that is being argued a lot lately. I can&#039;t possibly answer it in a blog comment either, it requires a post of its own.

Also, I do not have a talk radio show, so I am guessing you are thinking of someone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>Who &#8220;owns&#8221; the data is something that is being argued a lot lately. I can&#8217;t possibly answer it in a blog comment either, it requires a post of its own.</p>
<p>Also, I do not have a talk radio show, so I am guessing you are thinking of someone else.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff shuey</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff shuey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 00:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. You are right. Real Time Search is hot topic. To me RTS is just one facet of a bigger picture. Other elements include GPS (location specific data - either right now or where you will be); Devices where specific information (you mentioned mobile devices) is captured and rendered. I also include automobiles in this category - perhaps with the intelligence of OnStar (GPS data is published) and other more portable devices. There will be a lot of applications built to harness and process this real time data.

An interesting and challenging point I have been considering is: Who owns the &quot;data&quot; we are offering up about our whereabouts, our tendencies and other proclivities? In one sense it&#039;s our data, but as most EULA&#039;s note --- the application and/or carrier of said data owns it. We&#039;d like to think that people will use this data for good purposes and with good intentions. However, &quot;our&quot; data could also be used against us in too many ways to list here.

Real Time Search is here to stay --- whether we acknowledge it or not. The fact is these technologies have been operating somewhat under the covers in our cars, our grocery store purchases, and our online presence for years. Now &quot;our&quot; data is coming back to us in a more accessible manner so we can see what we&#039;ve been doing and perhaps set up some rules to help us do something with it.

jeff

PS - Perhaps this is a topic to explore in more depth on your talk radio show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. You are right. Real Time Search is hot topic. To me RTS is just one facet of a bigger picture. Other elements include GPS (location specific data &#8211; either right now or where you will be); Devices where specific information (you mentioned mobile devices) is captured and rendered. I also include automobiles in this category &#8211; perhaps with the intelligence of OnStar (GPS data is published) and other more portable devices. There will be a lot of applications built to harness and process this real time data.</p>
<p>An interesting and challenging point I have been considering is: Who owns the &#8220;data&#8221; we are offering up about our whereabouts, our tendencies and other proclivities? In one sense it&#8217;s our data, but as most EULA&#8217;s note &#8212; the application and/or carrier of said data owns it. We&#8217;d like to think that people will use this data for good purposes and with good intentions. However, &#8220;our&#8221; data could also be used against us in too many ways to list here.</p>
<p>Real Time Search is here to stay &#8212; whether we acknowledge it or not. The fact is these technologies have been operating somewhat under the covers in our cars, our grocery store purchases, and our online presence for years. Now &#8220;our&#8221; data is coming back to us in a more accessible manner so we can see what we&#8217;ve been doing and perhaps set up some rules to help us do something with it.</p>
<p>jeff</p>
<p>PS &#8211; Perhaps this is a topic to explore in more depth on your talk radio show.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Daniel Arlt and Mahendra Palsule, Brendan McManus. Brendan McManus said: Real Time Search Is Just A Foundation, There Will Be Something Bigger http://bit.ly/D0WvN #news #socialmedia [...]</description>
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