Comments on: Google Reader Hijacking The Conversation http://regulargeek.com/2009/03/12/google-reader-hijacking-the-conversation/ Where programming, the internet and social media collide. Mon, 21 May 2012 05:30:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Google Decided Reader Will Be The Real Time Hub | Regular Geek http://regulargeek.com/2009/03/12/google-reader-hijacking-the-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-2646 Google Decided Reader Will Be The Real Time Hub | Regular Geek Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:35:59 +0000 http://regulargeek.com/?p=474#comment-2646 [...] too much. My reader is open all day. However, in the past I have complained that the new features, like comments, groups and likes, were very odd and did not really add much to the application. If you click the [...] [...] too much. My reader is open all day. However, in the past I have complained that the new features, like comments, groups and likes, were very odd and did not really add much to the application. If you click the [...]

]]> By: robdiana http://regulargeek.com/2009/03/12/google-reader-hijacking-the-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-1908 robdiana Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:11:42 +0000 http://regulargeek.com/?p=474#comment-1908 nEtVolution, I have not publicized YackTrack a lot as I want one more big release before really marketing it. Regarding the "reprimand", sarcasm does not work well in the printed word, and I use sarcasm constantly. So, I am used to explaining myself. No worries here. nEtVolution,

I have not publicized YackTrack a lot as I want one more big release before really marketing it. Regarding the “reprimand”, sarcasm does not work well in the printed word, and I use sarcasm constantly. So, I am used to explaining myself. No worries here.

]]> By: nEtVolution http://regulargeek.com/2009/03/12/google-reader-hijacking-the-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-1907 nEtVolution Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:37:39 +0000 http://regulargeek.com/?p=474#comment-1907 ROFL! What a tool! Since it was my first visit, you had me totally sucked in! I took the happy face as though you were just softening the reprimand. I was kind of thinking wow, this is a first! Anyway, needed a good laugh today. ROFL! What a tool! Since it was my first visit, you had me totally sucked in! I took the happy face as though you were just softening the reprimand. I was kind of thinking wow, this is a first! Anyway, needed a good laugh today.

]]> By: robdiana http://regulargeek.com/2009/03/12/google-reader-hijacking-the-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-1905 robdiana Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:20:08 +0000 http://regulargeek.com/?p=474#comment-1905 nEtVolution, Just to make sure I wasn't misunderstood, I was totally joking about BackType and CoComment. Competition is a good thing, and we all have different strengths. nEtVolution,

Just to make sure I wasn’t misunderstood, I was totally joking about BackType and CoComment. Competition is a good thing, and we all have different strengths.

]]> By: nEtVolution http://regulargeek.com/2009/03/12/google-reader-hijacking-the-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-1904 nEtVolution Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:03:37 +0000 http://regulargeek.com/?p=474#comment-1904 Thanks for the heads up! Although I think it a little extreme and overly protectionist to ask there be no mention made of the competition..:). But obviously I'll respect the ground rules. I'll have to take a look at YackTrack now...;) When I was talking about facebook, I was actually being half serious. However their size also limits their ability to move quickly. Although this recent facelift will certainly open things up a bit and drum up the usual uproar over change. I'm still a big fan of the comments getting pulled back to a single source. Obviously the original blog seems like the most logical point for this to occur. I think it is beginning to get a little frustrating for commenters with all the competing comment management services. I must have seen the option to log in via four different systems today, depending on the choice of the Blog owner. At some point this has to centralize. I believe that is where OpenID and the various "connect" services from Google & FB will eventually help as they mature. Thanks for the heads up! Although I think it a little extreme and overly protectionist to ask there be no mention made of the competition..:). But obviously I’ll respect the ground rules. I’ll have to take a look at YackTrack now…;)

When I was talking about facebook, I was actually being half serious. However their size also limits their ability to move quickly. Although this recent facelift will certainly open things up a bit and drum up the usual uproar over change.

I’m still a big fan of the comments getting pulled back to a single source. Obviously the original blog seems like the most logical point for this to occur. I think it is beginning to get a little frustrating for commenters with all the competing comment management services. I must have seen the option to log in via four different systems today, depending on the choice of the Blog owner. At some point this has to centralize. I believe that is where OpenID and the various “connect” services from Google & FB will eventually help as they mature.

]]> By: robdiana http://regulargeek.com/2009/03/12/google-reader-hijacking-the-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-1903 robdiana Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:03:04 +0000 http://regulargeek.com/?p=474#comment-1903 nEtVolution, First, I never mentioned this before, but the ground rules of this blog state that you cannot mention CoComment or BackType as they somewhat compete with YackTrack :) In all seriousness, the fragmentation is not a huge deal depending on how it is done. You make a joke about Facebook, but they have the numbers to take over almost anything. Also, if you just tuned into this blog, YackTrack is a conversation and chatter tracker. There is a URL search to find the conversations about a blog post, and a keyword search to find mentions on various social services like Twitter, FriendFeed, and various blogs. nEtVolution,

First, I never mentioned this before, but the ground rules of this blog state that you cannot mention CoComment or BackType as they somewhat compete with YackTrack :)

In all seriousness, the fragmentation is not a huge deal depending on how it is done. You make a joke about Facebook, but they have the numbers to take over almost anything.

Also, if you just tuned into this blog, YackTrack is a conversation and chatter tracker. There is a URL search to find the conversations about a blog post, and a keyword search to find mentions on various social services like Twitter, FriendFeed, and various blogs.

]]> By: robdiana http://regulargeek.com/2009/03/12/google-reader-hijacking-the-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-1902 robdiana Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:04:10 +0000 http://regulargeek.com/?p=474#comment-1902 Lindsey, Providing a full feed for your readers is a really nice convenience. The idea has generally been that the RSS readers are providing a way to read the feed. Now, the person reading may have very little reason to go to the blog. It is very disappointing. Lindsey,

Providing a full feed for your readers is a really nice convenience. The idea has generally been that the RSS readers are providing a way to read the feed. Now, the person reading may have very little reason to go to the blog. It is very disappointing.

]]> By: nEtVolution http://regulargeek.com/2009/03/12/google-reader-hijacking-the-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-1901 nEtVolution Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:36:00 +0000 http://regulargeek.com/?p=474#comment-1901 I'm also mostly a commenter and keeping track of the conversation is an issue I've been experimenting with over the past couple of months (Disqus/coComment/Backtype etc...) It's issues like this that have created the opening for apps with features like Backtype Connect and Disqus's integration of FF comments. For me, the panacea is to see the different conversations going on everywhere, grouped by source obviously, so one can join in on the most active or stimulating. Google are really late to the game in many ways wrt managing the conversation. The potential they have with the number of users on GReader is tremendous, but their poor attention to this is tearfully frustrating. Thus most of the conversation occurs elsewhere. One of the issues I have with Friendfeed is that a link could be posted hundreds of times with hundreds of different conversations that you are unlikely to be exposed to unless you use filters, search and keywords effectively. This duplicity fractures the conversation. Google are just fracturing the conversation further. Hence why applications such as Disqus and Backtype are focusing on bringing the pieces back together. I don't think this will get resolved any time soon, but we will find ways to bring most of the comments into a central location. Until then we can only keep voicing our opinion and feeding back to these guys. Who knows, maybe Facebook will stomp up and make it all work!..LOL. I’m also mostly a commenter and keeping track of the conversation is an issue I’ve been experimenting with over the past couple of months (Disqus/coComment/Backtype etc…) It’s issues like this that have created the opening for apps with features like Backtype Connect and Disqus’s integration of FF comments. For me, the panacea is to see the different conversations going on everywhere, grouped by source obviously, so one can join in on the most active or stimulating. Google are really late to the game in many ways wrt managing the conversation. The potential they have with the number of users on GReader is tremendous, but their poor attention to this is tearfully frustrating. Thus most of the conversation occurs elsewhere.

One of the issues I have with Friendfeed is that a link could be posted hundreds of times with hundreds of different conversations that you are unlikely to be exposed to unless you use filters, search and keywords effectively. This duplicity fractures the conversation. Google are just fracturing the conversation further. Hence why applications such as Disqus and Backtype are focusing on bringing the pieces back together. I don’t think this will get resolved any time soon, but we will find ways to bring most of the comments into a central location. Until then we can only keep voicing our opinion and feeding back to these guys. Who knows, maybe Facebook will stomp up and make it all work!..LOL.

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