Comments on: Real Time Information is Just Data, Knowledge Comes Later http://regulargeek.com/2009/01/15/real-time-information-is-just-data-knowledge-comes-later/ Where programming, the internet and social media collide. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:47:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Twitter Trackbacks for Real Time Information is Just Data, Knowledge Comes Later | Regular Geek [regulargeek.com] on Topsy.com http://regulargeek.com/2009/01/15/real-time-information-is-just-data-knowledge-comes-later/comment-page-1/#comment-2812 Twitter Trackbacks for Real Time Information is Just Data, Knowledge Comes Later | Regular Geek [regulargeek.com] on Topsy.com Mon, 31 Aug 2009 07:53:11 +0000 http://regulargeek.com/?p=389#comment-2812 [...] Real Time Information is Just Data, Knowledge Comes Later | Regular Geek regulargeek.com/2009/01/15/real-time-information-is-just-data-knowledge-comes-later – view page – cached For real time information, we are still in the aggregation stage with tools like FriendFeed. Once the aggregation problem is fundamentally solved, people will start clamoring for better tools to help them understand and filter this data. We are currently building our data warehouses of real-time information. We are still waiting for the effective reporting and data mining. — From the page [...] [...] Real Time Information is Just Data, Knowledge Comes Later | Regular Geek regulargeek.com/2009/01/15/real-time-information-is-just-data-knowledge-comes-later – view page – cached For real time information, we are still in the aggregation stage with tools like FriendFeed. Once the aggregation problem is fundamentally solved, people will start clamoring for better tools to help them understand and filter this data. We are currently building our data warehouses of real-time information. We are still waiting for the effective reporting and data mining. — From the page [...]

]]> By: Dallas Replacement Windows http://regulargeek.com/2009/01/15/real-time-information-is-just-data-knowledge-comes-later/comment-page-1/#comment-1834 Dallas Replacement Windows Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:53:08 +0000 http://regulargeek.com/?p=389#comment-1834 I like this article! and I think having data is good to look into so that you can dissect it and interpret it. Now working on this technology and waiting to see how accurate it is, may be worth while to see. I like this article! and I think having data is good to look into so that you can dissect it and interpret it. Now working on this technology and waiting to see how accurate it is, may be worth while to see.

]]> By: robdiana http://regulargeek.com/2009/01/15/real-time-information-is-just-data-knowledge-comes-later/comment-page-1/#comment-1523 robdiana Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:27:11 +0000 http://regulargeek.com/?p=389#comment-1523 Alexander, I too have too many words in my post and still missed things I wanted to talk about. Knowledge of a topic is useless by itself. It still requires someone that will do something with the knowledge. So we agree there. Information without any action is just data sitting in a database waiting to be reported on. If you share that information with someone, you have taken action. In addition there are assumptions made about that information. The receiver puts a higher value on the information if you are a trusted source. That is a significantly different situation than what we do with the aggregated data in a service like FriendFeed. Alexander,
I too have too many words in my post and still missed things I wanted to talk about. Knowledge of a topic is useless by itself. It still requires someone that will do something with the knowledge. So we agree there. Information without any action is just data sitting in a database waiting to be reported on. If you share that information with someone, you have taken action. In addition there are assumptions made about that information. The receiver puts a higher value on the information if you are a trusted source. That is a significantly different situation than what we do with the aggregated data in a service like FriendFeed.

]]> By: Alexander van Elsas http://regulargeek.com/2009/01/15/real-time-information-is-just-data-knowledge-comes-later/comment-page-1/#comment-1520 Alexander van Elsas Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:21:44 +0000 http://regulargeek.com/?p=389#comment-1520 Hi Rob, thanks for the followup. I already used to many words so I couldn't work out the stuff you wrote about ;-) I think you present good examples how data mining can be very useful and valuable (in a business context). In a private context I am not so sure yet where this will get us. We are going from an evolution where the only information we had was information we shared in conversation, art, via print, to a world in which we can have access to any information that is available online. And now that we have that, we need to find new ways to structure it, reduce it to a level where we can actually cope with it. The quality of information is bound to increase as we invent better algorithms for that. My original thought however is that even with better mining tools, the information isn't real knowledge. It doesn't really provide us insight in what to do with it. In the end it seems to me there are no shortcuts to knowledge and understanding. And if you then compare that value to the information we exchange with the people we really know well in real-life, I'm inclined to think that that information is more valuable. Simple exchanges of 'useless' information, but they tend to have a much bigger impact on our lives then anything found online. Making that exchange 'priceless'. Hi Rob, thanks for the followup. I already used to many words so I couldn’t work out the stuff you wrote about ;-) I think you present good examples how data mining can be very useful and valuable (in a business context).
In a private context I am not so sure yet where this will get us. We are going from an evolution where the only information we had was information we shared in conversation, art, via print, to a world in which we can have access to any information that is available online. And now that we have that, we need to find new ways to structure it, reduce it to a level where we can actually cope with it. The quality of information is bound to increase as we invent better algorithms for that.

My original thought however is that even with better mining tools, the information isn’t real knowledge. It doesn’t really provide us insight in what to do with it. In the end it seems to me there are no shortcuts to knowledge and understanding.

And if you then compare that value to the information we exchange with the people we really know well in real-life, I’m inclined to think that that information is more valuable. Simple exchanges of ‘useless’ information, but they tend to have a much bigger impact on our lives then anything found online. Making that exchange ‘priceless’.

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